Quote from Dennis93 :

He's like 15!!!

14, read the post !

Quote from evilpimp :

:P I'm down to consistent 49.6's. I think I MIGHT be able to break into 48s in a suicidal lap...

Let me embarass you.

Its easily possible to do low 48s and high-mid 47s (if your alien) with the rookie solstice, correct?

Thanks for all the good words everyone, I'm excited to get on the track with CoRe!

Quote from Rikje :

don't worry. We'll bumpdraft ya :P

When were lapping him, of course!

Quote from evilpimp :

And you picked the advanced solstice, which is why you're never racing me. Look, you chose the solstice challenge, which is the same for both rookie or advance, then you chose your car. In my case I have the Pontiac Solstice - Rookie.

Down to 49.6..

No, there is a seperate series for the advanced solstice, except they don't run it since the Spec Racer came out. You are never in my race becasue I'm in the faster server and your in the slower one.

Taha, you don't seem to get it. Everyone that drives the rookie solstice drives the same setup no matter what license they are. You have to picked the advanced solstice to change the setup.

Quote from evilpimp :

Same A 50.2 but I was going to get a high to mid 49 and ruined it at that long left hander after the corkscrew heh. I might be able to beat it today heh.

My best so far is a 1.47.8xx.

Quote from Ramses :

It isn't. Its a service we provided to NDR.

They are guest on the server. They do what we sppecificly allow them to do.

We can allow or disallow whatever we want. It's not like MSN. It's not a public service.

The internet is a public place, what you say and do on the internet is in public. Your Ventrilo server is on the internet. This makes it a public place.

Quote from wild :

I'm trying not to post too much regarding the voice chat recording, but I'm going to make a post about your statement.

Yes I agree that could be looked at it from that way. It can also be looked at it from this way also; How were we supposed to turn it off before the race if we didn't know that he was recording us?

Why wouldn't you of turned it off if you never wanted to be recorded? Someone could be recording you at any time!

Quote from SmegFirk :

You have never said that I cannot come along to your house and steal your car, therefore I am on my way.

That is exactly the same principle you are attempting to apply, it's a fallacy.

Not the same at all, his car is an object which he owns, and is not for public use. What you speak through the internet is in the public and therefore legal to record.

Quote from SmegFirk :

the ability is there for anyone to use, you have made that point... permission was not given.

That can also be said the other way, you did not tell him he could not record people. Anyone that did not turn off the option to not be recorded did give anyone the permission to record them.

Quote from dekojester :

It'll be in September starting area, mebbe later.

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I don't really mind what day it is in September/October then. My concern was if it started in August that I would miss a race or two on weekends.

Quote from TFalke55 :

The problem about your midweek idea: We've all got our own lifes midweeks means, that we from europe would do the races when we should be supposed to sleep... The Kyoto 500 practice sessions in the week before the race were something single, happening twice a year (if you count the 250 to it), so we can affort it. Doing such a thing every week or fortnights would mean we'd need to affort it every week. Speaking for myself, I cant guerantee to be able every week or fortnights for the weekends, midweeks is more stressfull, and therefore much more blocked...

Okay, are we looking at a winter series again, or is it going to be in the summer/fall?

Theres no point in another Fo8 oval league. Race LFSCART. XrgSCC is what we need !

Quote from Bmxtwins :

That other sim better not be iRacing or rFactor

It's iRacing.

Can we have the races at about 8 UTC on a weeknight? There are so many leagues on weekends, it will be hard not to conflict with another series. Also, I like the idea of using ParkWay Long and some of the LOTA layouts from the MRT CC cup, if LOTA will allow you to use them. FE3r as the only normal track race in the middle of the season would be good. When are you guys planning on starting?

Quote from PMD9409 :

How about something that isn't wide open? That would make the racing better IMO. Even the XRG can get pretty exciting when alot of people know what they are doing.

The reason I don't like something wide open is that it points out LFS' biggest physics flaw, aero.

XRG would be awesome. Maybe a nationwide series to the XSCC?

Quote from PMD9409 :

Like I know you had that talk with Kenneth...

Well, it seems you guys are just attacking Nolan. Since there was 10 of you at the start of the race, and only 3 finished (all having problems) but only 3 protests against one driver, who didn't cause all of those incidents. Then you have (on the stream) Buck getting into you guys quite a bit, but yet you don't protest him for any of it.

You are attacking one person, and aiming at that one person only, it's quite obvious and pretty ignorant. If you are going to spend the time to protest, then protest everyone equally, don't just take everything out on one person.

And with the FM guy running high, he was doing it random times lap after lap to try and get away from Nolan. Nolan said about it multiple times on vent, which Deko will hear in his recording.

We never talked about it, I just decided I didn't want to fight with someone over something that happened in a race I wasn't even in. I agree that they are attacking Nolan, and thats what I was trying to say in my post. You put it better then I did though.

Quote from lizardfolk :

Personally I think it's not reasonable to expect people to just not pit especially when they have a large amount of damage when a caution comes out

Instead of a DT (which is too harsh imo), Y dont you enforce that the people who pit while the pits are closed will have to start at the tail end of the line.

This have people avoid pitting right when the caution comes out to take advantage of it and it'll be reasonable to those who were involved in an accident and their cars are rendered almost undriveable

I'm pretty sure thats what they did in the KY250, the system gives a DT, but they cleared it and had them start at the end of the longest line. This is also what happens in NASCAR.

Quote from danthebangerboy :

That makes me confused.

The front of the car is not the front wheel.

Quote from evilpimp :

Err the drivers head isnt at the same place as the rear wheel IIRC :P

And the front wheel is not the same place as the front of the car IIRC :P

Quote from Becky Rose :

Just to clarify an unclear point from your posts, the most common is to get the front of the car in line with the drivers head on the grounds that this is the extent of peripheral vision (in RL anyway). Getting your nose infront of the rear wheels isnt sufficient overlap in most series and the outside car is perfectly entitled to slam the door shut on you. What's most common in oval racing however I do not know.

I said front WHEEL to rear WHEEL. Which would make the front of the car at the drivers head. We are agreeing with eachother!

Quote from hyntty :

Not true. It varies. Check rules for each series on how sufficient overlap is defined.

But when it is not explained, this is the common understanding.

Quote from SmegFirk :

Incorrect.

I haven't looked in the official protest thread since making my own however up to that time everybody had done what the race director asked of them.

2March posted about an incident he had with car 116
Ronald posted about an incident he had with car 116
I posted about an incident I had with car 116

All of these incidents were at separate times spread out over the course of the race. If we had all reported the same incident as a group your comments would be justified.

Everybody is legitimately entitled to make a protest about anything which occurred with them during the race. If you had made the qualifying 30 you would also be entitled to make protests about racing incidents involved with you.

Those are fine, what I don't like is all the other people coming in and trying to back up your protest. It should be 116 and whoever protested discussing the protest that THEY made. No one else should discuss the protests which they did not make.

I find it quite disapointing how all the FM and friends are protesting for every small mistake the CoRe guys made, to try and revoke them from the win. It really is rediculous.

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Quote from VECCHIONI :

actually I do no see where it says what you talk about...I simply see where it says ANY measure.....

Overlap is when your front wheel, has met the leading drivers rear wheel. It does not mean a car is going faster then the other.